Welcome to the ninety-second of my blog interviews with novelists, poets, directors, bloggers, autobiographers and more. Today’s is with mystery / thriller writer Robert O’Hanneson. If you like what you read, please do go and investigate the author further. A list of interviewees (blogged and scheduled) can be found here.
Morgen: Hello Robert. Please tell us something about yourself and how you came to be a writer.
Robert: I was born in San Francisco and raised in the Santa Clara Valley prior to beautiful orchards being transformed into buildings that house high-tech companies. I travelled worldwide for many years selling amusement park rides, which gave me lots of free hours in the air. I think that’s when I starting writing ideas, then a screenplay since I knew I could never write a novel. Oops, I had it backwards. POSSUM BELLY QUEEN is available on Amazon and B&N. Maybe the movie is around the corner.
Morgen: It’s always lovely imagining who would play your characters. I heard a ABC radio (Australian) Book Show interview with crime writer Donna Leon as I walked to work (the joys of an iPod loaded with podcasts) and she was asked that question and she said she didn’t know because she’s never owned a television and has heard of George Clooney and Penelope Cruz but has never seen them act in anything. I haven’t watched any TV for about a month (although conscious of my faithful Sky+ chugging away) because I’ve been so busy (plus I’ve had hundreds of songs to rate on my iTunes and find I get more done as I end up staring at the TV) but think I’d miss the TV eventually. I do go to the cinema once or twice a week (the joy of a season ticket) so that makes up for it. You write the mystery/thriller genre, Robert, what have you had published to-date? If applicable, can you remember where you saw your first books on the shelves?
Robert: I have published articles in a couple of magazines, but POSSUM BELLY QUEEN is my first book. I saw my first book at a writers conference in Las Vegas where my publisher brought me the first five copies.
Morgen: I bet you were thrilled. How much of the marketing do you do for your published works or indeed for yourself as a ‘brand’?
Robert: Since my book is set on carnival midways, I’m trying to create a brand for readers to follow. I’m using the same social media networks as most authors but hitting state and county fairs, amusement park sites and blogs.
Morgen: Where people are happy to spend money… good plan. 🙂 Have you won or been shortlisted in any competitions and do you think they help with a writer’s success?
Robert: This book won Best Novel 2010 in the Dark Oak Mystery Contest.
Morgen: Oh wow, well done! Do you have an agent? Do you think they’re vital to an author’s success?
Robert: I don’t have an agent, but prior to signing a publishing contract, had sent endless, both e-mail and snail-mail submission. I think the industry is changing and agents are slowly disappearing. Having said that, I believe a good agent can open doors and guide an author through the corridor to success. I had one years ago when I first started. Later I discovered that she had me doing all the wrong things. I spent thousands of dollars binding manuscripts and travelling to Book Expos instead of writers conferences.
Morgen: Oh dear. 😦 But now you’re meeting your audience. 🙂 Are your books available as eBooks? If so what was your experience of that process? And do you read eBooks?
Robert: My book will be available on e-books sometime in August. Yes, I carry my nook with me all the time.
Morgen: August… that’s now… ooh how exciting. 🙂 What was your first acceptance and is being accepted still a thrill?
Robert: This is my first. I remember getting an acceptance from Military History for an article, but when I opened an e-mail from my publisher, it was the Fourth of July.
Morgen: I guess that’s like our April’s Fool? (April 1st) Have you had any rejections? If so, how do you deal with them?
Robert: Yes. The pile got so high that we had to add a room on to the house. I think it bothered me more in the beginning. After receiving so many, I just said, “Oh, well. I’m one closer to getting published. I think of J.K. Rolling and the many rejections she received.
Morgen: It does get easier. I was disappointed with the first (although my first submission was an acceptance so by law of averages, I’d expected it). What are you working on at the moment / next?
Robert: I’m working on a three book series. POSSUM BELLY QUEEN is the first. HELIX is the second and CHAIN DOGS is third. The second is set in a state of the art amusement park that’s self-sustaining and deals with international terror. I’m two-thirds of the way through it and have starting jotting down ideas for the third.
Morgen: They really do sound refreshingly different. 🙂 Do you manage to write every day? What’s the most you’ve written in a day?
Robert: When I’m in town, I get up early, watch the news and read, then go upstairs and write. Now that I’m published, I spend about an hour a day on marketing. The most I’ve written is about two thousand plus words in a day.
Morgen: That’s really good going. I put somewhere the other day (on Twitter I think) that 500 words a day is 182,500 words a year (with Feb 29th off in a leap year) so even if we all wrote that, it would be amazing. What is your opinion of writer’s block? Do you ever suffer from it? If so, how do you ‘cure’ it?
Robert: I don’t think it exists. I think we all have good and bad days. Writing is like anything creative. If I’m having a bad day, I take a walk or read for a while, then return to the keyboard.
Morgen: Do you plot your stories or do you just get an idea and run with it?
Robert: I usually get an idea and run with it, never sure of what the ending might be. About a third of the way through I think I know the ending but keep an open mind to ideas that might pop up. Input from others and something I see on TV, read in the paper or a book all play a role in where I go.
Morgen: Another thing that Donna Leon said was that she never plots and never knows the ending when she starts so that was encouraging. Do you have a method for creating your characters, their names and what do you think makes them believable?
Robert: Yes. I like them to be different. I was taught that each character’s name should start with a different letter of the alphabet to make it easier for readers. Of course the character has to fit the story. Their dialogue has to fit their personality and their vocation.
Morgen: Absolutely they should be different. You could get away with it if they sound different (e.g. Jeff Lindsay’s Dexter and Debra Morgan – the usual spelling of Morgan… I like to be different, besides Morgan Bailey is the name of a porn star!) although I’d still avoid something like Bill and Phil unless part of the storyline was to get them confused. Who is your first reader – who do you first show your work to?
Robert: My wife. She does my editing. Sometimes it requires boxing gloves when I write 20 pages and she cuts out 11. For years, I travelled to Fresno and attended Bonnie Hearn Hill’s critique group of published authors and writers. The thousands of miles were worth every minute and every dollar I spent.
Morgen: And now you could probably do it all online from the comfort of your chair. 🙂 OK, maybe not the same but certainly sufficient for people who can’t travel. Do you do a lot of editing or do you find that as time goes on your writing is more fully-formed?
Robert: My work has evolved to where it’s comfortable and requires less editing. Having said that, I don’t know of anyone who writes and doesn’t make changes every time read it. By the time my book was published, I was ready to move on.
Morgen: Me too (after 3-4 drafts). 🙂 Apparent Jeffrey Archer dictates what goes off to the editor but some would say that’s clear from his books but he’s a great storyteller (or used to be – I wasn’t fussed about his ‘And Thereby Hangs a Tale’. Sorry, Robert, I keep getting sidetracked. What is your creative process like? What happens before sitting down to write?
Robert: Life is my creative process. I look back on what has happened to me and the rest of the world. I look at the present and where we are as a nation and global community. Then I look forward as to where we might be down the road. There’s enough material in that space of time to fill bookshelves in thousands of libraries.
Morgen: Then I’d better let you get on. Oh, OK, you’ll stop a while longer… thank you. 🙂 Do you write on paper or do you prefer a computer?
Robert: Computer. I open my manuscript document and create one titled “Notes,” where I include things I want to remember: Character profiles. In the chapter they first appear and anything pertinent to the chapter. I also have a yellow note pad where I scribble things.
Morgen: What sort of music do you listen to when you write?
Robert: It varies. Bob Seager, Jackson Brown and Paul Simon for energy. I also listen to a light jazz and light classical station in Sacramento.
Morgen: What point of view do you find most to your liking: first person or third person? Have you ever tried second person?
Robert: Third person. I’ve tried first a few times and use it in my epilogue. Never have attempted 2nd.
Morgen: Oh it’s great. It provokes mixed feelings (from the writing world and your fellow interviewees) but I love doing it and would recommend at least having a go. You could pick one of my second-person https://morgenbailey.wordpress.com/sentence-starts and see where it leads. 🙂 Do you use prologues / epilogues? What do you think of the use of them?
Robert: I like some. My publisher read my last chapter and suggested I write and epilogue. She said there was so much testosterone going that I had to bring the reader down. I had several people read the epilogue and loved it.
Morgen: I used not to read them but then wrote a prologue in my second novel and am now much more sympathetic. Do you have pieces of work that you think will never see light of day?
Robert: Probably. Not because they are bad but because of time. Manuscripts I wrote ten years ago were good publishable storylines with so, so writing. I believe if I go back and rewrite them, I can sell them.
Morgen: Me too. What’s your favourite / least favourite aspect of your writing life?
Robert: I love seeing the story unfold in front of me. I remember writing a scene at a memorial for a person who had died in an automobile accident. His father gave the eulogy, and I cried while I wrote it. My least favourite aspect is the networking and marketing because it takes me away from what I really enjoy.
Morgen: Exactly how I (and many of the interviewees) feel. If anything, what has been your biggest surprise about writing?
Robert: The time it takes to produce a good piece of work. When I started, I knew I would be on a bestseller list as soon as the book was published. Not! The years since have brought me back to reality.
Morgen: But your writing will be better for it. What advice would you give aspiring writers?
Robert: Write every day. Find a good critique group. Find your genre. Be tenacious and don’t give up. Pay attention to submission guidelines. Rejections are part of the business. Enter writing contests.
Morgen: Sound advice, thank you. What do you like to read?
Robert: I enjoy Harlan Coben, Dennis LeHaine, Lee Child, Sandra Brown, David Baldacci, Jack Higgins.
Morgen: I’m not familiar with Dennis LeHaine but the others are stalwarts. 🙂 Are there any writing-related websites and/or books that you find useful and would recommend?
Robert: I’ve read different books but the critique group I attended helped me more than any book I ever read. I’m on the Oak Tree Books blog. Murder Must Advertise. I also go to different author’s sites. I use Facebook and learning Twitter.
Morgen: Me too. 🙂 In which country are you based and do you find this a help or hindrance with letting people know about your work?
Robert: I’m in California’s Central Valley. I don’t think it matters where you write. The internet has made us all neighbors.
Morgen: It’s has, that’s very true. Are you on any forums or networking sites? If so, how invaluable do you find them?
Robert: I participate on my publisher’s site, Oak Tree Books (http://oaktreebooks.com).
Morgen: Ooh, I’ll have to take a look. Where can we find out about you and your work?
Robert: Since POSSUM BELLY QUEEN is my first book, you can Google me or go to my website http://www.robertohanneson.com.
Morgen: Yes, please do. 🙂 What do you think the future holds for a writer?
Robert: I believe people enjoy reading, which means there will always be writers. Some will stay as writers and others will become authors. As e-books become more popular, the need for more material will increase, which means there will be a greater need for authors.
Morgen: Yay. Is there anything else you’d like to mention?
Robert: If a person is serious about writing, they need to do it as much as possible and check their ego at the door. Rejections are part of the business. Learn the basics: Scene structure. Character development. Point of view. Verb tenses. Conflict must flow from scene to scene.
Morgen: Absolutely, I plan to do a blog post with some key ingredients – I podcasted them late last year so it’s about time I blogged them. 🙂 Thank you Robert. I then invited Robert to include a self-contained extract:
Even though Pop loved the carnie life, he used to call it the devil’s sandbox. He could never understand why Andy didn’t feel the same.
Amusement parks turned silent and eerie when the lights were out. Standing among the metal beasts, he got the same wrenching feeling in the pit of his stomach as he did in the Army when he’d been on a mission and hit a blind spot. No way out until it was finished. Couldn’t discuss it then, couldn’t forget it now.
He made his way down the Santa Cruz boardwalk past the Roundup and Paratrooper, then headed toward the Log Flume and a potential 90 G’s that would save his business.
Wood groaned above. He stopped and looked up. The Giant Dipper. Steel coaster didn’t make that sound.
Morgen: Ouch. Thanks again Robert. 🙂
Robert O’Hanneson spent over twenty years selling amusement rides to carnivals and parks worldwide. Now, he writes fulltime in California’s Central Valley. His novel, POSSUM BELLY QUEEN, is Dark Oak Mystery Contest’s 2010 winner and is currently available on Amazon and at B&N. He wrote BLOODY SOIL, which was partially read on Fresno’s NPR station. His article INSIDE THE SILOS OF DOOMSDAY, was part of Military History Magazine’s issue on the Cuban Missile Crisis. His work also appeared in Fresno Magazine. As board vice president of the Yosemite Writers Conference, he worked on planning of conferences, speaker acquisitions and generated scholarship funds for high school and college students.
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Terrific interview with Robert, I enjoyed getting to know more about him and his work. Love his choice of music, nothing beats Bob Seger!
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Thank you Angela. I’m delighted by the response to Robert’s interview (as with all of course).
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Morgen, if you don’t know who Dennis Lehane is, you need to pick up Mystic River. I cried when I read the first paragraph.
Robert, we are so happy to have to signed on with Oak Tree. I’m personally looking forward to having another San Joaquin Valley author to promote alongside.
Great interview!
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Thank you Sunny. Mystic River, of course… I can picture the cover now. Doh! 🙂
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Great interview, Robert, and good advice.–write, write, write. I agree about writer’s block. I may not be sitting at the computer clicking the words on the keyboard, but I am constantly visualizing scenes and actions in my mind.
Thanks for the advice.
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Thank you Paula – I look forward to receiving and posting yours. 🙂
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I enjoyed reading this interview. I love to learn what “tricks of the trade” other writers use, what works for them. This article really covered all the bases and gave a lot of sound advice for writers.
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Ah thank you Patricia – there may be others on https://morgenbailey.wordpress.com/blog-interviews that may be of interest and it also says how you can take part if you’d like to. 🙂
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Another splendid interview Morgen. What a terribly interesting background Robert has of fair rides and carnival. A vast array of background information on which to base novels. Keep it up, I know of no one else writing in that genre which gives you all sorts of a head start.
jackleverett.me.uk
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Thank you Jack – it’s incredible the variety of authors coming through… and by all accounts the readers are enjoying this as much as I am. 🙂
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Robert, you’re a very brave man. I won’t let my wife come near my writing. And brush off those old manuscripts, I’m sure there is some very good stuff there.
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Absolutely – I think anyone who’s been writing for a while can see the flaws in earlier works. I have a ton of short stories that I’m hoping that’s true for. 🙂
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Great words of wisdom. I feel like I know Mr. O’Hanneson now. It’ll be like reading a friend’s book.
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Ahh…. lovely to see you here John and I look forward to posting yours on the 2nd Sept.
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This was a great interview. There’s something about a carnival that just breathes intrigue. Sharing about the realities of writing, editing and rejections confirm for me I’m in the right spot. I have been looking for my next book to read and Possum Belly Queen is it. Thanks!
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Great interview, Morgen! Great responses, Robert. The years of personal and professional life experience are what make books by mature authors so rich and delicious, I believe. I’m on my way to Amazon right now to read a 2010 Dark Oak Mystery Contest winner!
Marta Chausee, author
Resort to Murder mystery series
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Thank you Marta. 🙂
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Great interview, Robert, from one of the Posse. So far I’ve read the 1st Chapter. Very good. It’s nice to hear about how other debut writers got started. Good luck on your next books. Thanks for sharing with us, Morgan.
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You’re welcome Michael. At least half the credit goes to the authors because without them I’d be interviewing myself (which I will be doing for the 100th :)) and considering the questions are practically the same each time, they make the interviews feel unique (to me anyway).
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Excellent interview, Robert. You are so lucky to have such a trustworthy first reader! Doesn’t Morgen have the best set of questions to introduce you (and the other interviewees) to the world? And I love that she posts her own take on what the writer has said. Really helps to dig into the story! Possum Belly Queen sounds so intriguing. Sigh. So many good books to read–so little time.
C.K.Crigger
Two Feet Below
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Thank you Carol. I’m so glad you think so and will look forward to posting yours on 1st September. I started interviewing on my podcast nearly a year ago so the first set of blog questions (only back in June) came from then but I’ve added quite a few in since then… and surprisingly the authors want to answer most if not all of them. 🙂
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I loved this interview thank you Morgen. Robert–woo is all I can say. As a child I loved to go to carnivals, Big Tops etc, but always had a fear of being left there alone and in the dark, so I am looking forward to reading Possum Belly Queen, I’m already in suspense posse buddy.
Augie
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Enjoyed your interview and learned something about another Oak Tree Press author. Your unique world of amusement parks sounds fascionating–there’s nothing “amusing” about murder! Best of luck with your new book!
Sally Carpenter
“The Baffled Beatlemaniac Caper”
Oak Tree Press
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Thank you Sally for stopping by and of course staying long enough to leave a comment. And I look forward to receiving and posting yours. 🙂
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I wish I had a nickel, no wait, that’s so 1980’s, I wish I had a dollar for every writer who had to get rid of a bad agent and then went it alone successfully. It can be done, and Robert is one example of how to do it, especially if you can find a supportive small publisher like Oak Tree. Write on, Robert!
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As a kid, I never really liked amusement parks because of motion sickness problems that took all the fun out of the rides, but now I can just sit back with Robert’s story, hold the book very still, and enjoy the whole experience.
Thanks Robert.
And best of luck with the movie, which I am afraid I would have to skip, because I’m still not over that inner ear balance thing that turns my stomach upside down.
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Thank you for the “be tenacious.” And paying attention to submission guidelines sounds common sensical — except that I’ve been culpable of not doing that, groan, groan.
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I really enjoyed the interview. It’s nice to learn more about another one of the posse. Keep up the great interviews.
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Morgen, I enjoy these interviews you conduct. Thanks for introducing writers to readers.
Robert, I look forward to reading Possum Belly Queen. Carnies are a breed apart, and since they sell thrills, they’re well suited to thriller fiction. I wish you success with this novel and the future novels to come.
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Ah thanks John. I enjoy doing them, and it doesn’t look like they’re stopping any time soon (hoorah). 🙂
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I read Possum Belly Queen and loved it. It’s a bit grittier than what I usually read, but this one held my interest from beginning to end. I was fortunate enough to meet Robert and his lovely wife at the last Public Safety Writers Conference and had to buy the book just to find out what a Possum Belly Queen could possibly be. And yes, you need to read Dennis Lehane–Mystic River is a good choice.
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Fantastic interview. I learned a lot. Thank you, Morgen and Robert. I’m off to Amazon right now to purchase a book that will keep me at the edge of my Wilde Maus seat.
Marta Chausée
author, Resort to Murder series
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Yay, another known sale… think I should start charging commission. 🙂 Only kidding…
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Great interview. I can’t wait until mine is featured. I think Ms. Bailey’s questions are wonderful for eliciting information and Robert’s answers were very personable and intelligent. Should be a good book.
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Thanks Steve. I’m surprised, given that most of the questions are the same each interview how different they can be. That’s definitely down to the interviewee… OK 95% them 5% me 🙂
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Great interview with Robert O’Hanneson. The excerpt from the novel shows what a good writer he obviously is. It’s nice to read about a fellow Dark Oak contest winner (my novel, A Lesson in Murder was also published by Oak Tree Press). It’s always interesting to find out how other writers deal with plot, characters, rejection, and promotion.
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Thanks for the good read. I always learn from reading such interviews. Possum Belly Queen – what a title! Love it.
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Thank you Eileen – I’m delighted that Robert’s post has been so popular. 🙂
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